Dave and I went to see our friends at Kaiser Permanente to get our vaccines topped up. Neither of us had had an RSV shot and I needed my second shingles vaccine. I rolled up my sleeve and said “Fill ‘er up!”
“Do you want both the shingles and the RSV today or would you rather space them out?”
Hey. I drove all the way over here. Slam ‘em in there. I told her I rarely have any trouble with immunizations. Worst case, my shoulder might be tender as a Buicked possum, but that doesn’t last.
I don’t even know what RSV is. I used to read everything I could about these viruses when COVID first showed up. They were constantly finding out new information about transmission and what to do to protect yourself. There were daily updates. But I got tired of it all after a few years. When RSV showed up, seemingly out of nowhere as though it was just taking its turn, I went straight to “give me the vaccine” and was done with it.
The shingles vaccine, though, I’d already heard rumors that it can knock you flat for a while, especially that second one.
The problem with vaccine side effects is that I might not recognize them. I rarely have any pain and when I do I go straight to the dark side. So when I went to bed last night with a sore arm—that part made sense—I was fine. But all night long I kept waking up and my arms and legs ached, all over. Which is not normal. I couldn’t get comfortable. There were two possibilities: nocturnal multiple sclerosis, which usually clears up by morning, or I had suddenly come down with a case of being 95 years old. That early-onset nonagenaria is a killer. There was no other explanation. I did develop one arthritic finger practically overnight, so I know these things can happen in a hurry.
Finally I motivated enough to try to get out of bed. The toilet interested me, but it is about fifteen feet away. Halfway there, my body was as sturdy as tapioca. I gave some thought to blooping toward the floor and curling up on the carpet under a blanket. I didn’t have to pee that bad. Somehow, though, I managed to get to the bathroom and did the minimum number of things that needed doing, and retired to a comfy chair.
Which was not comfy, on account of being not near horizontal enough.
Also, my skin hurt. Pretty much the whole envelope. Not all the time, just when it touched something else, like furniture, or clothing, or air.
Also, my hair hurt. This isn’t as much trouble as it could be, because my hair has been falling out rapidly to get the jump on being 95.
I looked it up. The side effects of the RSV vaccine and the shingles vaccine are the same. One especially helpful website featured a simple drawing of a human body, such as you’d see on a bathroom door, with little lines connecting the symptoms with the body. Ergo, “headache” had a line going to the head. “Nausea” had a line going to the midsection. “Diarrhea” had a line to the diarrhea zone, a.k.a. the nethers. Without the helpful visual aid, you might mistake an earache for a stubbed toe.
Like a lot of you, I thought RSV was brand new, just one more affliction for the end times. But apparently RSV, which is short for Respiratory Snickletickle Virus, isn’t new. In fact it was first discovered in 1956, which is pretty close to when I was first discovered. The main difference between RSV and me is I haven’t killed anyone yet. But I’ve got a few years left, and I don’t feel so happy right now.
RSV evidently got ticked off during the COVID pandemic. No one was going anywhere and there weren’t enough people agreeing to host. So once people quit wearing masks and such, RSV blasted out of the gate again demanding to get its propers.
Turns out I did have a fever and that’s probably why I felt 95 years old. It’s worth it. I don’t know about RSV, but shingles is not trifling. Shingles is what you get when your chickenpox virus hides inside your body trying to develop a crocodile for fifty years and then it erupts in reptilian wonder on one side of your body. The crocodile is trying to escape and your skin is the only thing holding it back, but it can put up a pretty good fight before resubmerging.
The reason the vaccine is so troublesome is that it’s trying to slay the chickenpox virus but has no modern weapons at its disposal. You’d like to think your vaccine has been pumped into your arm complete with laser weapons, pew pew pew, but instead it goes in, has a look around, and does that medieval thing where it shoots a barrage of tiny arrows into the air all at once and hopes for the best. And I guess it does a pretty good job of deflating the virus, but you get all those arrows going off in you, you’re going to feel it.
At least that’s what I came up with, but I had a fever.
Hey Murr:
I’ve had the shingles vaccine series, but it’s been a few years ago now. I don’t recall anything spectacular about it. Maybe a sore arm. Certainly no fever.
Only the price was spectacular. The first round was $88, but both my mom and my younger sister had gone through shingles and I had no desire to try that. I forked over the money and that was that.
I was prepared for the price of the second installment . Except I wasn’t. The pharmacist on duty screwed up his forehead and muttered that it couldn’t be right. He went into the back and fought with the computer for awhile. When he re-emerged, he asked for the credit card I’d used for the first round and refunded the entire first amount and sent me on my way with a sore arm.
There are some heroes out there.
Wow! That’s a good story.
People on Medicare can now receive the Shingles vaccine for free.
I have Kaiser and it seems like almost everything is free.
*Grumbles* Lucky bitch. We don’t have Kaiser here in Delaware. I had never even HEARD of it until you! You seem happy with it. I wish I could be happy with insurance in general. But it seems like a scam to me. Get people to pay out the nose for things that will probably never happen to them. Make it lucrative for the doctors to run tests and prescribe drugs. Insurance companies rake in the money, while they poo-poo procedures because THEY don’t agree with them. THEY are not doctors! I would LOVE to try the stem cell injection into my knee. It’s relatively non-invasive. But THEY consider it “experimental”, so that’s it for me. I don’t have that kind of money. Even my acupuncture is not covered, although it helps. And my liquor bill to help with my worries and anxiety? No. Not covered. 😭
At least in America we’re free to pay through the nose to insurance companies. Some countries, the government takes over and before you know it everyone’s paying less. It’s a scandal.
My eldest told me: “Have you heard about the Canadian version of ‘Breaking Bad’? Walter White finds out he has cancer. He gets treated for it. The end.”
I’ve kept up my covid vax’s, but not my RSV or flu, and I don’t have a good reason why. Respiratory Synctial Virus can do some damage to a immunocompromised population. When I was a attending at Swedish when they had the Fred Hutchinson Cancer patients, one Friday the peds ward contacted me, I tested a couple of the 14 kids on the ward, word a full body contam suit. By Monday, only 4 were alive.
I figure that the people who get vaxx’ed are doing a service to themselves and the rest of the population, and should get a tax break. This would maybe change the dynamics of the anti-vax cult.
Cheers.
That’s horrible. Seriously, I never even heard of RSV before about last year. I thought it was a new thing.
I’ve been lucky with vaccinations. My doctor didn’t even recommend that I get the RSV shot because I don’t have chronic respiratory illness. But yesterday for the first time I tested positive for Covid. Sickest I’ve been in a long time. And Paxlovid is vile. I know. I know. I’ll take it as directed. Thanks for the chuckles.
Aww! Still haven’t gotten COVID here. Got a couple two-day sniffle events and those, plus the various vaccine reactions, are as bad as it’s gotten for four years now.
Had COVID two years ago. It was all respiratory with me and was pretty rough. My ex kept wanting me to go to the hospital, but I didn’t think I was that bad. Coughed and sneezed so hard that my back and my ribs hurt. Still dealing with exhaustion. Lung capacity isn’t what it was.
Have you had pulmonary function tests before and after getting the virus? I’m out of the field now, but am curious what the effect on PFT’s show.
Ohhh, we’re not going to talk about shingles, OK? I had that in my 20s, and it just wasn’t pleasant at all. I hope you’ve recovered from your reaction(s) by now!
EARLY ONSET SHINGLES!!!
I got shingles a few years ago. Not a picnic in the park. Nosireebob. Fortunately, we had 2 bathrooms, so I camped at one end of the house and The Man at the other. I was super-scrupulous about non-contamination…he’d go off to the shops with a list and deposit the grocery bags at the door. I,wearing my surgical gloves, would put the comestibles away, chuck the shopping bag in a bucket of Lethal Strength kills all radioactive gremlins chlorine. As soon as I was deemed free of the virus I sent The Man to his GP for the vax. He got bloody shingles!!!!!!!!!!! But nowhere near as nasty as my dose.
It’s a beast, folks so get the vax.
Tell the truth now! You just used that as an excuse for a little time off from The Man. Shingles isn’t contagious!
It is, until the blisters scab-over.
Apparently you don’t get shingles, but you can get chickenpox from someone with shingles. I only know what I read on the internets.
I just got the RSV as well; I felt like everyone else was at some club and was surprised I didn’t know where it was. I did get kinda sore–also experienced having my hair hurt!–but the upside was I had a clinician with a sense of humor. So damned rare, especially at Kaiser.
I watched my mom with shingles so jumped on the vaccine as soon as I could.
You mean you got RSV, or the vaccine? My experience with everyone at Kaiser has been splendid. Loooove my doctor. The dermatology department is a little sketchy but everyone else is great.
Same here, though dealing with the pharmacy sometimes gets odd.
I think when I got the second shingles vaccine they had recommended getting it at least 2 weeks after the RSV one but I may be wrong. Either way, sorry you had a bad reaction! I had shingles in my ear in 2018 and I definitely would not want to experience THAT again. I had even had the previous shot that wasn’t as effective (obviously) so I wanted to make sure I got the GOOD 2-shot one. I’ve been lucky so far. The only vaccine I had any reaction to was the first COVID vaccine and that was just a few twinges and night sweats.
In December my husband and I both got COVID (I got it first – after being at a clinic for cataract surgery! – and the poor dear caught it from me). We had had every booster in a timely fashion and we still got it but I’m sure it would’ve been much worse if we hadn’t had all those shots. It was like a bad cold plus fatigue. Husband still has a nagging cough but I recovered completely. I think the new strain that’s dominant since then was much more contagious.