I used to think it was Dave’s fault I didn’t know how to cook. He cooked so I didn’t have to.
But since I retired I’ve done some dabbling. Some dribbling. Once, some daubing. A daube is basically beef stew, only pressed through the mind of Julia Child, so that instead of chopping things up and pouring liquid over them, you have to assemble cinnamon stick orange zest thyme bay peppercorns parsley cloves celery onions garlic carrots bacon wine friggin’ COGNAC and (oh by the way) start yesterday. There’s beef in there somewhere too, I’m almost sure of it. It’s good. Plain beef and carrots and potatoes are good too.
But it really is Dave’s fault that I never picked up much cooking expertise from him. If I ever asked him anything, like “how long do you cook a baked potato,” he would say “until it’s done.” Thanks! It’s not like I would have remembered anyway. For me to learn something it has to be pushed into my brain really hard and really often, and one has to be careful to pound the bung in with a mallet first so it doesn’t all shoot out the other end. I have now been cooking for ten years or so and the only thing I don’t have to look up is how to toast pecans and how to make rice, although I still have to double-check the rice thing sometimes. Dave’s ability to assess the contents of a refrigerator and then whomp it into a meal using only salt and his neurons is an ability I do not share.
Fortunately, there is the internet, so I’m not flying blind. Except sometimes. I’ve taken to hard-boiling eggs lately. It took me a while to come up with that bright idea. I would buy a carton of eggs and use one in, say, lasagne, and then three months later there I’d be with eleven old-ass eggs. I don’t do much baking anymore and that’s where the eggs used to go. BUT with hardboiled eggs I’m only minutes away from egg salad or deviled eggs! Minutes, I say! If they’re already peeled.
Problem. Often as not, my peeled eggs look like golf balls, complete with dimples. So I looked it up. The internet is very pleased with itself. It unrolls pages of links to perfect boiled eggs that are a snap to peel. Why, all you do is cover the eggs with an inch of cold water in a pan, bring to a rollicking boil, cover, take off the heat, and set the timer for 12 minutes. Immediately plunge into ice water for ten minutes.
Oh wait. Actually, you should boil three quarts of water. And you should keep it boiling the whole time. And it should be nine minutes. Or seventeen.
Oh wait. Don’t boil them at all. Steam them. Also, take them out of the fridge for a half-hour before you cook them.
Oh wait. You should cook them straight out of the fridge. And use old eggs.
Immediately plunge them in that ice bath, though, for ten minutes. Oh wait. At least fourteen minutes. But in any case, immediately. Oh wait. You should crack them just a little bit before plunging them in the ice bath.
Then put them in the fridge and peel them later. Oh wait! Peel them under the ice bath water while they’re still warm.
Add a little salt to the boiling water. And a little vinegar.
Also, if you’ve put your eggs in the fridge and can’t remember if they’re hardboiled or not, there’s a handy trick, assuming you didn’t mark them with a Sharpie because you don’t have the brains God gave a hammer. Why, all you do is put them on the counter and give them a spin. The raw eggs will wobble vertically. The cooked ones will spin in place horizontally. Murr’s tip: spin ‘em right off the counter and onto the floor. It’s foolproof.
The recipe from New York Times Cooking says “If your goal is perfectly smooth, blemish-free boiled eggs that jump out of their shells every single time, I’ve got bad news: No technique in the world can promise that level of perfection.” That’s why I went with their version. Credibility. No salt, no vinegar, and also? No ice bath at all. Works pretty good. But I do have some tips of my own.
Add a heap of sharply-worded verbal abuse before peeling your eggs and, if necessary, during. Don’t spare their feelings. One website referred to eggs as having “air-space indentations on their fat ends.” You could start with something along those lines and roughen it up as needed.
Me, I have no air-space indentations on my fat end. I have blown out a pair of shorts or two.
Even as someone who is a Foodie, cooks a lot and well, hard-boiled eggs are a conundrum. As you say, every source seems to have a different “right way” to boil them. I boil them, turn it down to a simmer for 5 minutes, and I never put them in ice water afterwards. I just pop them in the fridge until I’m ready to use them. Sometimes they are easy to peel, sometimes difficult. I roll them on the counter until they’re cracked, then peel them under cold running water, starting at the fat end. I always make more than I will need, because every once in a while a particularly stubborn egg will rebel against being shelled, and there is heavy loss of egg white. (although everyone knows that the yolk is the tastiest part.)
Speaking of eggs, poached eggs are WAY easier to make if you use a microwave. Just put 1/2 cup water in a microwave safe bowl, crack an egg into it, and nuke for 40 seconds to a minute, depending on how well-done you like the yolk.
Huh. I do poach an egg once a decade or so, when Dave is sickly and needs poached eggs! I have to look it up every time. BTW the NYTimes recipe works great so far.
Don’t get me started on waitstaff who ask you how long to boil your eggs when you ask for hardboiled! I’m like, “I’m in a restaurant so that I don’t have to think about cooking!”
I solve that by not ordering eggs in a restaurant. It’s like my sister says: “I like my eggs in cake.”
I cover eggs with cold water, bring just to boil, cover, remove from heat, leave for 8 minutes or so. This next part is magic. Rinse eggs under cold water briefly so you can handle them. Tap one end on counter to start a crack in shell, then roll on counter under slight pressure until eggshell is cracked all over. You’ll feel the shell and underlying membrane begin to loosen as you roll. Pinch a bit of shell and shell membrane away at one end, then hold under cold running water at that end. The water will separate shell membrane and shell from egg. Then you can peel under the water easily. Works for me perfectly at least 90% of time. I can’t wait to see how many more of these you get! I did see on Pinterest that you can place raw eggs in shell in a muffin pan and bake boiled eggs, which sounds wrong from the get-go, but that’s Pinterest for you.
I’m going to try this next time! I’m always willing to try new ways of cooking things. I don’t need hard-boiled eggs very often, but I may put them on the menu soon just to try this. Thanks!
I absolutely knew I would get everyone’s methods in the comments. Gotta say, so far the NYTimes method has worked for me every time, but they won me over by saying nothing is really foolproof.
My former boss at the machine shop was impressed by me eating hard boiled eggs and allowed that he had seen women on the Internet who could blow an egg out of its shell without cracking it. I thought about that for a moment as he waited for me to try this and then told him he’d have to find one of those women on the Internet.
I find that letting a hard boiled egg sit in cold water for some amount of time immediately after it exits the pot makes it easier to extract it from its shell.
All bets are off if it is a farm fresh egg.
My mom poached eggs in a poacher. She handed it off to me one day. I occasionally use it, buttering the cups first, adding the egg and a dollop of maple syrup.
I also learned how to poach eggs in a frying pan with about two inches of water in it, add a touch of salt and a dollop of olive oil. You get the water boiling, then put it on low heat, create a whirlpool by stirring a spoon around in the water and then gently ease the egg in. If you do it right, you end up with a perfect poached egg and you feel like a fucking genius. If you don’t do it right, you end up with egg drop soup, which impresses the dog no end.
Have I ever told you how much I appreciate your comments? Yes I have. BTW we used to blow out eggs for decorating purposes via two pinholes in either end. I’m not sure that’s why your boss was interested though.
And I love the hack where you are supposed to put the cooked egg into a jar, close the lid and shake the hell out of it for five minutes. (If I had that much energy, I’d fix a meal. ) The hard boiled egg is supposed to emerge shell-less and perfect. Never tried it.
LOL! There are times when I feel sick, and I think that I should take my temperature. But I have an old-timey thermometer that you have to shake down first. If I feel really sick, I just don’t have the stamina for that! So I just rely on how chilly I feel and how hot my forehead feels. Real scientific.
Right? That is way too much effort.
Aged eggs are the best, start in cold water and warm the water slowly to a ten minute boil. After you cool the eggs in an icy bath – WHACK the big end of the egg hard against your elbow. That “blows” a bit of air from the bubble under the membrane to loosen it. I peel using the side of my thumb, trying to flake away nice large pieces! (Good Luck 🍀)
I’m not whacking things against my elbow! Here’s the other thing I’m not doing: did you know you could buy pre-peeled hard-boiled eggs at Costco? Awesome, if they didn’t come in a gigantic single-use hard plastic container. Oy.
Perfectly smooth peeled hard boiled eggs are only necessary if they are to be displayed on a platter at a party. The rest of the time is just doesn’t matter, once chopped into a salad or mashed with mayonnaise for a sandwich dimpled eggs are no different to the perfect ones.
Ah, but I loves me the devileds…
Get an egg cooker. Comes with a little device to puncture the shell, measure out the right amount of water (depending on the number of eggs), turn it on, it buzzes when they’re done.
That takes all the fun out of it.
Instead of 12 or 19 or 7 minutes, make it 13 minutes and you’ve got Martha Stewart’s method exactly. I’m glad they did not sentence her to commit seppuku with a melon baller so she’s still around to tell us these things. Anyway, I agree with the Bad News from NYTimes Cooking.
I’ve boiled eggs their way three times so far with perfect results, but that’s not a scientific sample.
and to add to the chaos – I pass off the responsibility. I have adult children. I ask them bring the hard boiled eggs or any meal component requiring same. Or has my husband who does most of the cooking. He doesn’t do any better on hard boiled eggs, but …
Delegating is the sincerest form of self-care. Wait. That isn’t a thing.
What the bejeezelhoop! Betcha next post there’ll be people telling you the absolute, God-sworn fool-proof way to do a soft-boiled egg. And the folks who missed the current(checks date) post will be right up there with the hard-boiled truth. Oh, wait a minute…the hard-boiled truth is over in Washington DC, right?
I’ll check with a friend who has 40,00years of family knowledge on how to cook an emu egg…
I have eaten emu egg.
How many of you did one emu egg feed?
Oh yeah, I know about popping the hole in either end of the egg to blow the contents out. Works great if the egg is raw. Not so great if it’s cooked.
Some years ago I visited an ostrich farm. A wheeler dealer I knew had discovered it and gotten permission to collect bones from the slaughtered birds.
Sometime after we’d arrived and were digging through the piles of bones, the farmer came by to chat. Not sure how it came up, but he said he had two chicks that had died while pipping out. They were mostly still in their shells and frozen. I took one and my cohort took the other.
Then I spotted a lovely egg sitting off to one side. You know how chicken eggs are sometimes bumpy? This one had stars formed that way on the surface. I asked if I could have that one. He said sure, but it was rotten and handle with care.
Now I’d figured out that I could use a garden hose to blow out rotten goose eggs before. Made the job quick and the water diluted the stink to some extent. Those were my thoughts on the matter. I find I can get pretty philosophical about stink as long as there is something good in the end. The neighbors don’t share my feelings on this.
Anyway, I took that rotten ostrich egg home and drilled a hole in each end with my Dremel. Hooked up the hose and yep, the contents did in fact come out. I had to enlarge the holes a bit and do some poking around. I also illuminated the interior with a halogen flashlight to find the last bits hanging on. Basically lit up the egg so I could see the dark spots.
I forget what that smelled like. Just remember the contents came out like toothpaste.
The frozen chick I got was still mostly in its egg. It had died while pipping out, which does happen even to little birds that have egg shells like soap bubbles. I don’t know how ostrich chicks make it out at all without heavy equipment. That shell is thick!
I thawed it and then sectioned the shell with my Dremel. A perfect little ostrich chick tumbled out. I had a perfect glass vessel for it and it sat pickled atop my filing cabinet in my office for years, thrilling the students who were thrilled by such stuff and outraging the students who just want to show how righteous they are.
This is a good enough time to complain that the NY Times Spelling Bee does not accept the word “pipping.”
Eggs are gross, no matter where, when, or how you interact with them. Disgusting little blobs. Please never speak of this again. I’d rather smell farts than be in a house with hard-boiled eggs in ANY state of presentation. Maybe because farts and hard-boiled eggs are the same thing, eventually.
If I do, you have my permission to remind me of my transgression.
You could say, “you have nice LEAN air-space indentations on your fat end.” That might work.
LEAN! I almost forgot about that (it was so thrillingly inappropriate).
My friends- ’tis easy. Toss a good fat pinch of salt into the boiling water. The eggs almost strip tease their shells off for you.
I think you can get the same results by doing a dance waving a chicken over your head too.
I have tried every egg technique; none seem to work. I can say that the fresher the eggs, the harder they are to peel.
Sorry, smb, but, no they don’t.
Sounds like you’re a candidate for one of those egg cooker dealies.
Pipping, pipping down the lane we go. The NY Times Spelling Bee can go soak their collective heads! What did you do, look it up? Did you look up any of the other words I made up? Assuming of course that I made up pipping. Which I didn’t!
I didn’t need to look it up. The Spelling Bee doesn’t accept a whole bunch of words that have to do with birds, are birds, or relate to normal biology in any way. They don’t accept motmot. Anhinga. Alula. Anole. Cavy.
Tail End Charlie here…
For the first time I successfully made poached eggs this morning. Yesterday a family harridan told me to put vinegar in the water, and put the eggs in one at a time , stirring the water gently. And to not let the water/vinegar boil, or even quite simmer.
Previously I’d gotten just water to boil and broke the eggs in in a slapdash fashion
The new method weirdly worked.
See my above comment about microwaving them. Really, it’s foolproof. And I know this for a fact, because I am indeed a fool, and yet I made perfect poached eggs. They are great on leftover thingies, like salad, polenta, rice… or over toasted bread.
Huh. I tried something similar some time back, and the yolk exploded all over the inside of the microwave. I’ll give it a shot again.
You have to watch it like a hawk. (It’s only less than a minute, so I’d rather do that than the whole vinegar in simmering water thingie.) As soon as the yolk looks to your liking, get it outta there!
I blacked out after “exploded all over the inside of the microwave.”
Of course, all the existing recipes are worthless if you live above 5000 feet. I still haven’t found the right formula for getting the egg all done but with no green layer.
There is something to be said about older eggs peeling easier. Water does evaporate through the shell and adds just a bit of separation betwixt shell and edible parts as the egg shrinks.
And I never have to worry if my eggs are old or not. They are. I buy them to put one egg in something and the rest languish until I remember to hard-boil them.
Pressure cooker?
My pressure cooker is the single most used appliance I have. I make big batches of stuff and freeze it for later. I use the microwave for just reheating things.
The kind that goes on the stovetop, or stand-alone?
The kind that goes on a stovetop. One of the modern ones; it’s a LOT safer than the old-timey ones.
I haven’t even seen one in decades. Last I recall, the only safety feature was a blow-out (a.k.a. “rupture”) disk. What’s new in that area?