A friend just offered up a pair of her jeans on facebook. “They fit,” she said. “I just can’t stand the boot cut.” Well, that’s the thing about jeans. They’re all basically the same garment, but there are style variations, and everyone has a type they prefer, and if you stick them in the wrong jeans they feel all wrong in a fundamental way, as though they’d put their underwear on backwards. My friend wants skinnier jeans. This pair makes her feel like she’s in eighth grade again, and we can all agree that can’t be good.
We couldn’t wear jeans in school when I was in eighth grade and I’m not even sure I had any. At home I wore thin-wale corduroys. I had to lie down on the bed to get them zipped up. If I could stand up again, I stayed stood. They didn’t make stretch pants back then. Well, they did, but not the kind that looks like real pants. Maybe your friends’ mothers wore them. They were pink pedal-pushers, and came with a cocktail and a cigarette.
When I was a junior they finally relaxed our school dress code. My jeans were bell-bottoms. People used to wear bell-bottoms until they wore out and then they’d patch them by hand. If you were a boy, some girl might offer to patch them and embroider butterflies on them for you, because you were cute and had no skills. And if the bell bottoms weren’t belled enough they inserted extra gussets in a bright calico. It’s a miracle nobody added crinolines. Stick little ostrich-feather hats on our kneecaps and we’d have looked like we were walking a pair of Victorian ladies in hoop skirts.
I must credit my modest, ladylike mother for not interfering when I took these jeans with me to college. The patches required handwork after every laundering until they were patch-to-patch with no original material. Fortunately, I didn’t launder often. I can’t rule out that the secret to their longevity involved body fluids.
Every day I paired those jeans with a simple black leotard and no bra, an outfit that left little to the imagination. At the time, in 1970, of course, no imagination was required.
My patchy jeans surrendered completely at some point, probably capitulating into powder while I was wearing them, and by then, tight, high-rise jeans had come into fashion. It’s impossible for a young person to ignore fashion, which explains that whole lie-on-the-bed-to-zip interlude. The high-risers had a nice corset effect that accentuated my waistline, which existed at the time. Shirt tucked in, narrow sparkly belt, score! Finally, by the time I was old enough to disdain fashion, they quit making my jeans. You couldn’t find a high-waisted trouser anywhere. You could buy pants with a zipper that only had four teeth in it and comb your pubes over the top, or you could get some a little higher, but it never felt right to me to have all my belly blobbery spilling out.
But it’s not just jeans that change styles. Bodies do too. For my whole life women strove for flat butts, and turned one hip forward for photos so that they didn’t look too wide down there. Suddenly butts were the big thing. Girls posed sideways to show off their cantilevered asses and the jeans cut right across the largest circumference so you couldn’t miss it. This has been going on for twenty years and finally a couple years ago I saw some high-rise jeans in the store. Whaa! I bought them right away. Looked right enough in the dressing room!
Except now all my belly blobbery was squoze to the top and that treasured tight waistline felt awful. I worried about my intestines. I wore them once.
Here’s what I want now. Something below the waist but not stupidly below the waist, something that looks like real denim—no stonewashed, no rips, no fake-worn—but made of stretch material. Honey. These ain’t Ann-Margret’s stretch pants. These are regular-looking jeans that forgive you when you bend over. I’d thank the person who invented this fabric, but St. Peter isn’t letting me past the velvet rope.
I wear Levi’s 501 straight leg jeans. And now they have stopped making them, so every time I see a pain in my size on ebay, I buy them. One pair I found was loud enough that they were not stretch material. Yikes!
Oh good God. Old enough, not loud enough.
We do all the mental corrections here. No worries. Amazing how fast we took to that stretch material, innit?
And now I’m anonymous. I don’t know how that happens.
Even though I went to high school during the hippie era, I never even owned jeans until the designer jean era, when they started putting the lycra in it. I just didn’t like the look (I was more a Mod than a Hippie.) Being short, I always had to have them hemmed. Then, for a long while, EVERYTHING was “low-rise.” God, I hated that, as I am so short because my legs are short in proportion to the rest of me. I certainly didn’t want to look even shorter!
Now, however, I have found The Perfect Jeans that fit me without hemming! Boden makes them in petite sizes — which was still a trifle long, BUT when I get the petite in the ankle length, they fit me like a regular pair of jeans. I was so gleeful about that, I bought a second pair. If a person is reallyreally short, I totally recommend checking them out.
On a side note, guys are fortunate that they can buy jeans that are say, 32 X 32, and they actually are! With women’s clothing, some companies have “vanity sizing”, some don’t, and some have it but to varying degrees. For instance the current size 0 is usually the same as a size 8 would have been decades ago. As women have been gaining girth, the sizing has been creeping down. So when one buys online, they usually have a size window that tells you what size to buy based on your measurements. Sometimes even they can be wrong. I always check the reviews to see if people have found them accurate or not. Fortunately, my jeans were accurate with the size specs, as I hate to return things.
At one point Dave was a 34X34. I called him SquarePants.
I dunno, so far as I can tell there’s no correlation between the numbers they put on pants and the size of them. I think the factories have random number generators. I used to get excited when I finally found a pair of pants that fit, because I thought that if I bought pants of the same brand with the same label on them next time, I’d get a vaguely similar garment. Nope. Not how it works. If anyone does know how it works, please let me know!
Zero women will be able to help you here.
Even as a guy the sizes vary quite a bit now. Used to be I could order or go to a retail store and be sure of the sizes. Unfortunately, those days are gone. I remember 1970. The first Earth Day, the Strike, and most of all the young women in bell bottoms and leotards with no bra. God, I loved that look. No one I know could pull it off anymore, though, but I have learned to love the mature look. Do I have a choice?
Probably not.
No offense.
None taken. I am no longer the amazing prize I once was. Remember, the older I get the better I was. 🙂
I remember hearing somewhere, and am paraphrasing, “Don’t feel bad about how you look. This is as good as it’s going to get going forward.”
As always the comments on the post are also part of the entertainment! Murr, you and I must be pretty much the same age, because I wasn’t allowed to wear pants to high school until Junior year and then jeans Senior year. I don’t think I owned any jeans until then either. We had the hip-hugger bell bottoms during college, and yes, the leotard too! And all the girls wore Dr. Scholls sandals during those years, which were made of wood and killed my feet but I had to have a pair.
The jeans you are pining for exist – Gloria Vanderbilt makes them! They’re denim with enough latex to be comfortable even over belly blobbery. They look like regular jeans. They’re all I buy now.
I have some olive-colored GWs a friend gave me and they are fabulous. They’re my gardening pants now. I don’t know what size they are because I slice out tags as soon as I can. (I’m very delicate.)
PS Class of ’70.
I’m a tiny bit younger than you so my first memory of jeans as a tween-teen is hip-huggers. Oh dear lord, just shoot me now. Then Levi’s were all the rage and only came in men’s sizes which, again, just shoot me now. I stopped caring about everything fashion by the time I was 20. I love that pants have now gone to low-rise or just below the waist because I have no waistline, only about an inch between my hips bones and my ribcage. I love J Jill’s jeans with 5 or 10% stretchiness built in. They sit below the waist, stretch just enough so breathing is easy, and they make ’em in tall. They also make ’em in short/petite. They make a denim leggings that I adore because they’re even more stretchy and so they’re comfy. J Jill stuff is wicked expensive but they’re stuff lasts forever. Good luck.
A lot of stuff that is “expensive” is totally worth it for several reasons. As you mentioned, it lasts. It is NOT “fast fashion”. It is generally of good quality, natural fibers, and even sometimes organic. A plus is that it’s probably not made by tiny Chinese girls in sweatshops. One has to read the labels and not the minuscule (or pricey) pricetag.
As to “fashion”, I love the Coco Chanel quote, “Fashion changes, but Style endures.”
Oh lord, hip-hugger bell-bottoms with a wide belt…
I buy Not My Daughter’s Jeans on eBay. The only place I shop for that item of apparel.
You’re the second person to recommend them. Can I get them if I don’t have a daughter?
I have discovered cargo pants and will never buy another pair of jeans. Pockets are where it’s AT! I buy men’s extra large to get the legs long enough, then slap a pleat or two into the back to bring the waist in. long over-shirts for a top, and I look like a happy pile of wrinkled laundry from the top of my head to the grubby sneakers.
Roxie, you’ve got to have a hard time finding pants long enough for you. Me, I hem mine by walking on them until they self-edit.
Pull-on jeans with lots of stretch, slim straight legs, none of this “ankle-length” business. No zipper, and, at least, back pockets. Liverpool Jeans makes them. You youngsters best go ahead and adopt my Fashion Motto: All clothing must feel like pajamas, and all shoes must feel like bedroom slippers. You are welcome.
With you all the way. Actually, most of what I wear IS actual pajamas. And bedroom slippers. My neighbor once saw me out gardening in such an outfit and said “Man, you really DON’T care, do you?”
You’ve described the jeans I want too, and I have them stashed away just waiting for me to lose those 40 pounds. Well, 32 pounds now. I should get there in another year or so. I’m too old for crash dieting. I have always hated high rise pants and low rise should never have been invented.
I believe we are ready for skirts now.
Why do men’s pants rarely fit them? Mostly the ass end hangs loosely. Do they not look in a mirror? Does no one tell them?
I noticed long ago that Levis are not only baggy in the butt, but the positioning of the pockets makes their butts look even worse. Paul buys a bunch of Lee jeans every couple years. The sizing is consistent, and the pockets make the most of one’s butt. Plus they have a bit of lycra.
As to the mirror or telling them…. No. While women seem to think they look worse than they actually do, men seem to think they are George Clooney when they are more like Drew Carey. And women don’t tell them because we’re smart enough to choose our battles. Plus, they won’t listen anyway.
Like many or most men I rarely look in a mirror. If you ever get to meet me in person you will know this to be true. Maybe it’s just because I really don’t want to know.
I think it’s possible we’re the same person.
I’m sorry, I blanked out there a little a “ass end hangs loosely.” What’s worse is if that describes you nekkid.
And what’s with this new thing of women’s jeans having itty bitty pockets- about big enough for a paperclip. WAAAAAHT? Do we not have needs like a place to stash our phones or a wad of kleenex and 2 masks? We should go on strike. It would be so worth it…
Um, there are a few other things going on right now we could go out on strike for…
Not Your Daughter’s Jeans solved a lot of these problems for me. An assortment of styles and rise, and stretch that doesn’t wind up a baggy mess. I especially like the “Marilyn” due to its higher waist. Stupidly expensive (all around $100), but all jeans seem to be these days. But they last forever! I’m still wearing ones I bought ten years ago and they still look great.
Amazing! I count on my good pants getting worn out after a while so I can assign them to the garden.
I LOVED my Bell Bottom Hippie Handwork Jeans! If only I’d kept them I’d make a fortune now or my Grandchild would be stealing them from my Closet… since, well, I’m not a size One anymore. When they make BMW Jeans I suppose I’ll start wearing them again… but at a certain Age and Size, somehow, they’re just not that comfortable or ‘Hot’ looking anymore as a Style option. I recently found some at a Chazza in my enormous size that were reminiscent of my Hippie Jeans enough, I bought them… I look at them each day now, imagining if they will A: actually Fit B: I’ll actually look presentable in them C: They’ll be comfortable D: I’ll just Donate them without ever trying them on?
I actually can’t remember passing through Size One on the way to whatever I am now.
I have a pair in my closet that are 50 years old, mine from back in the day. Can’t bear to throw them out or even pass them on. They do still fit, but is it appropriate to wear jeans at 84?
Oh, FFS… especially at 84, you can do whatever the hell you want! Wear them and be proud!
I don’t think the word “appropriate” even applies to 84. At 84, you owe nobody any pretense.
Late to the comments, but I have given up on jeans completely. Nice stretch denim leggings (Uniqlo) in a decent color range.
But then, when I went thru school only dresses & skirts were allowed for the girls. The boys could wear jeans but not overalls.
Fashion? If I was old enough to wear it the first time around, I am not repeating the mistake!
A friend who read and howled at this can like totally relate. She suggests that the answer to your third life jean dreams is DG2 jeans by Diane Gilman on HSN.